tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post2018465174770982568..comments2024-03-27T06:03:35.695-04:00Comments on Brodeur is a Fraud: The Wrong NumbersThe Contrarian Goaltenderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03433370306939690205noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-14883245960897810032015-08-04T09:04:21.388-04:002015-08-04T09:04:21.388-04:00شركة نقل اثاث بتبوك
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It's a tough thing to do in human behavior because you cal almost never have a truly controlled experiment, but we do the best with what we have (ie: stats).Kent W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15679878875910837307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-92183726174308052082010-11-17T11:19:17.210-05:002010-11-17T11:19:17.210-05:00It's definitely interesting how people seem to...It's definitely interesting how people seem to adjust their memories when they see the career numbers somebody put up, often while simultaneously ripping stats and people who "go off of box scores" and pointing to all kinds of intangibles or making claims that are demonstrably false, e.g. your example that Nieuwendyk was a shutdown forward.The Contrarian Goaltenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03433370306939690205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-69382779600295241132010-11-16T13:34:45.126-05:002010-11-16T13:34:45.126-05:00Boy, am I glad to read some anti-Nieuwendyk sentim...Boy, am I glad to read some anti-Nieuwendyk sentiments. Not that I have anything against this classy individual, nor do I imply that you do, TCG, but the media lately has been elevating this guy to godlike status and a surefire first ballot HHOFer. (I was happy that didn't happen but no happier with Ciccarelli) nieuwendyk is not a God! <br /><br />No one ever sent him votes for the Selke trophy, now suddenly he's described as a "shutdown forward" by THN.<br /><br />Nieuwendyk scored at a 60-point clip in the playoffs, but suddenly he's described as "clutch".<br /><br />The guy is called a "winner" because he won three cups with three teams, but he was a second-year player who was, at best, 5th in importance to Calgary, 9th at best to New Jersey (which is generous because that would place him ahead of four players who got more ice time than him, plus he never played in the finals), and 3rd to Dallas (I've thought all along that his Smythe was a dirty ripoff of either Modano or Hasek)<br /><br />Because he's such a nice and classy guy, the media wants to think he was some sort of hero. Why can't they just be satisfied to remember him for what he was - an elite 2nd line center who could score goals but wasn't much of a playmaker, who once scored a few game winning goals in a six-game stretch in rounds 1 and 2, who contributed to three cup-winning teams, who three times was one of his team's two most-used forwards, (never the most), was decent defensively and amazing on faceoffs?James Beneshnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-59032110643051551982010-11-13T12:59:00.012-05:002010-11-13T12:59:00.012-05:00Remember that Roman Turek was the Stars backup in ...Remember that Roman Turek was the Stars backup in '99; the starter for the Blues in the 1999 playoffs was Grant Fuhr.<br /><br />He might've been overrated before, and he almost surely was by then, with a save percentage of about 89%.J. Gryphonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-50314382582972212512010-11-13T11:09:10.370-05:002010-11-13T11:09:10.370-05:00What's more is that Modano ALWAYS played the t...What's more is that Modano ALWAYS played the toughest minutes on the Stars' teams in that era. The non-Smythe (haha) is just par for the course on a career of underappreciation. It's very likely he'll finish his career without having won any major trophy.Bettman's Nightmarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06131336795024110298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-68944036460939606462010-11-13T06:15:22.940-05:002010-11-13T06:15:22.940-05:00"Eddie the Eagle was great; he outplayed Hase..."Eddie the Eagle was great; he outplayed Hasek in the last game of the series"<br /><br />Not sure that I or TCG would agree. The SOG were close, and compare the vast disparity in QUALITY of shots that the Stars were getting through as opposed to the Sabres. I think quality of shots/good scoring chances matters just as much as quantity of shots, particularly if dealing with very unevenly matched teams. Same applies to the St. Louis series, Eddie the Eagle faced much easier shots than Roman Turek. I believe TCG has run the numbers comparing desperation shots taken from everywhere by a desperate inferior team to shots taken with more purpose and intention by the superior team, from a position of superior comfort and control.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-36719115767295862962010-11-13T02:58:54.100-05:002010-11-13T02:58:54.100-05:00As a diehard '99 Stars fan, I agree that Hasek...As a diehard '99 Stars fan, I agree that Hasek probably did more good for his team than any other single player did for their team in the 1998-99 Stanley Cup playoffs.<br /><br />Eddie the Eagle was great; he outplayed Hasek in the last game of the series, but he wasn't responsible for the Stars' success in quite the same way that Hasek was for Buffalo's success. The only series where the Stars, as a team, obviously had trouble against the other team, and relied on their goalie to save the day, was against the St. Louis Blues (look at the stats -- the Blues outshot them; the only edge I noticed for the Stars was in save percentage). The underrated, underestimated Stars were an amazing team and would have been great even if their goaltending wasn't quite as hot as it was.<br /><br />On the other hand, the Sabres were average, or maybe slightly above average, as a team and heavily depended on possibly the best goalie of all time to push them into the threshold of greatness. Don't get me wrong, the Sabres would have been an all right team without Hasek...<br /><br />...but you wouldn't have been talking about the Sabres as Stanley Cup Finalists without him, and that's what really matters in the end.J. Gryphonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-50951065566871052142010-11-12T20:28:44.667-05:002010-11-12T20:28:44.667-05:00I agree that Modano should have gotten it over Nie...I agree that Modano should have gotten it over Nieuwendyk, but if you had your way, who would the Conn Smythe have gone to if being on the winning team was not an issue?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-6087778593640549782010-11-12T12:12:48.365-05:002010-11-12T12:12:48.365-05:00I would have been perfectly fine with the Smythe g...I would have been perfectly fine with the Smythe going to Hasek, and he may indeed have been the most deserving, but I am also aware that there is a voting bias in favour of the winning team. That's why I think the voters should at least have gone with Modano rather than Nieuwendyk, given the assumption that they were going to pick one of the Dallas Stars for the honour.<br /><br />I wouldn't say that Modano carried the Stars on his back, because that's almost never even close to true in a team sport, but I would argue that he was clearly Dallas' best player and that his importance to that team is largely underrated. Nieuwendyk hit a hot streak in the '99 playoffs that I think camouflaged the true difference in ability for many (aided by the Smythe voters of course).<br /><br />Look at the scoring and plus/minus numbers for the late '90s and early '00s, and Modano is consistently at the top of a very good group of players. And in the 2000 playoffs, Modano and Hull absolutely carried the Stars on their backs offensively. Both scored over twice as many points as Nieuwendyk (the #3 scorer) as Dallas once again went to the Finals before losing.The Contrarian Goaltenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03433370306939690205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-45777876301329359092010-11-12T00:03:24.690-05:002010-11-12T00:03:24.690-05:00The Conn Smythe should have gone to Dominik Hasek....The Conn Smythe should have gone to Dominik Hasek. Without Hasek, the Sabres wouldn't have made the playoffs, let alone come to within two wins of the Cup. Hasek was more than the heart and soul of that Sabres team, he was the team. He likely carried the Sabres even more singlehandedly than Giguere did in 2003, and Giggy quite rightfully won the Conn Smythe.<br /><br />I agree with you that Modano carried a harder load than Nieuwendyk, but Modano was still one of several star players on that team that each played a big role. He did not carry the Stars on his back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com