tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post5346253821184479928..comments2024-03-27T06:03:35.695-04:00Comments on Brodeur is a Fraud: Martin Brodeur and the Upside Down Career CurveThe Contrarian Goaltenderhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03433370306939690205noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-60316088432920010302008-12-14T23:50:00.000-05:002008-12-14T23:50:00.000-05:00did you take into account all the coaching changes...did you take into account all the coaching changes? if i remember correctly, at the beginning of the season when broduer was "failing the test" they were under a diff. coach. then at the end of the season lou stepped back in and they won. am i thinking of the wrong season? yes brodeur has gotten sharper because shots are coming from new spots. pre-lockout kids in front of the net got messed up. now they can stand there pretty much without remorse. and with scott stevens not around to lay earth shattering checks in the corners, the devils had to take a new approach to their game. devils defense ISNT what it used to be, so brodeur HAS to step up and become better then before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-28017608805992133592008-04-12T16:44:00.000-04:002008-04-12T16:44:00.000-04:00haha an average player does not win 3 stanley cup...haha an average player does not win 3 stanley cups and most of all not a goalie.. the people posting on here must be fans of the maple leafs or winnipeg jets..both your teams are done.. no goalie has won every cup hes gone to and the fact he has 3 immediatly puts him in the hall of fame...he wins and looks great doing it his stats are amazing and even up to this year hes in top 5 or higher in every major goalie catagory and this year is without decent players in front of him...peopl get a life!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-42285366431196340022008-02-25T02:12:00.000-05:002008-02-25T02:12:00.000-05:00Great post.I was actually thinking about this the ...Great post.<BR/><BR/>I was actually thinking about this the other day.<BR/><BR/>Brodeur's improvement in post-lockout play presents the illusion of consistency given the fact that his team is no longer able to prevent high quality scoring chances as effectively as before. His underlying numbers (namely,SQN%)in 2007-08 are his best to date, but this escapes notice due to the average hockey fan's preoccupation with more superficial figures (Wins, GAA, aggregated save percentage, etc). This is the first year in a long time when one can accurately say that Brodeur isn't overrated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-84708866482122679332008-02-20T17:12:00.000-05:002008-02-20T17:12:00.000-05:00Hey Ryan, just check out all the research & articl...Hey Ryan, just check out all the research & articles the author has put on here.<BR/><BR/>No doubt about it, Brodeur is very overrated. Some years he has been pretty good (although not the "best"), & others even below-avg. But his team is great so he usually looks pretty good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-23027275659504052922008-02-20T12:56:00.000-05:002008-02-20T12:56:00.000-05:00I have a question with your numbers - how do you a...I have a question with your numbers - how do you arrive at your league average and leader numbers for save %? A backup golie on a good team playing a few games against mostly subpar teams can throw the entire average out of whack. What are your sources for all your statistics?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-37746692999182106042008-02-19T21:28:00.000-05:002008-02-19T21:28:00.000-05:00Well, speaking from playing goal for a long time a...Well, speaking from playing goal for a long time and playing at the major junior level, being a goalie is the toughest position in all sports, besides being a quaterback, but even that's comparable. To say that Marty is questionable to be considered in the top 5 of all times is crazy. His resume speaks for itself. On top of that, he's been playing nearly 80 games a season for almost his entire career. Even Patrick Roy had mediocore and below average seasons throughout his career. Marty has always produced and at 35, is still producing at a Vezina trophy worthy level.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09855806153955646728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-37008056745148949272008-02-11T17:57:00.000-05:002008-02-11T17:57:00.000-05:00If Brodeur was truly elite - as proven by statisti...If Brodeur was truly elite - as proven by statistics - maybe he'd have 5 or 6 Cups instead of just 3. Instead, he's been merely average too often.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-27540376075865129402008-02-11T09:50:00.000-05:002008-02-11T09:50:00.000-05:00I'm not saying he is not as sharp as he used to be...I'm not saying he is not as sharp as he used to be. I'm saying he is significantly MORE sharp than he used to be. Martin Brodeur is better now than he was between 1998 and 2005. If you look at the graph, that seems to be a pretty reasonable conclusion. I've taken a lot of shots at Martin Brodeur, but he has been undeniably very good this season behind the worst team defence he has ever had. That doesn't make him an all-time great, and doesn't change the fact that he was average for many years, but you have to give credit where credit is due.<BR/><BR/>As far as the extra shots not faced being easy, that may be true this season, but it is not true for previous years. There are ways of measuring shot quality, and one of the easiest is just taking the average shot distance against. Brodeur always had the longest average shot distances against, meaning that he faced relatively more easy "get over the line and take a wrister" shots than most. This year is a different story, however, which is why his performance is more impressive.The Contrarian Goaltenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03433370306939690205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8148461224473220694.post-81303144897878228322008-02-05T12:33:00.000-05:002008-02-05T12:33:00.000-05:00Are you serious? I respect your opinion and all th...Are you serious? I respect your opinion and all that jazz, but you are putting far too much weight into statistics. The Devils system doesn't protect Brodeur as much as Brodeur protects the Devils system. Yes, he faces fewer shots than most, but if you watch the games on a consistent basis, you'll see that a lot of those missing shots are the simple shots that goalies will always save and usually freeze (the "get over the line and take a wrister into the crest" shot). He still faces and stops a lot of good scoring chances, especially this season, with a pretty terrible defense in front of him. About ten goals against the Devils this season have been the direct result of Johnny Oduya falling down, giving the puck away, or just being tactless in his own zone. <BR/><BR/>On top of that, there is the issue of the disgracefully gigantic pads that a ton of "top" goalies wear nowadays. If you look at a goalie like Lundqvist and watch him play, you'll be surprised as how frequently the puck hits him and he's looking the other way. I don't chalk that up to skill the same way statisticians will see it. I'm not big on changing the game - I hate the concept of the shootout, the handcuffing of goalies in the corners, the new zone-sizes, etc - but one thing that needs to be addressed is the size of pads. I know that measures have already been applied, but goalies still abuse the system. <BR/><BR/>Is time/age catching up with Brodeur? Yes, I concede that he's not quite as sharp as he used to be. He hasn't been the best goalie this season, but in terms of performances, he has still been one of the best.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com