Saturday, January 27, 2007

The Playoffs and Reputation

Exhibit A in how team defence and playoff success define goaltenders:

Dan Cloutier vs. Martin Brodeur

2002-03:
Dan Cloutier: .908 save %, .908 shot-quality neutral save %
Marty Brodeur: .914 save %, .906 shot-quality neutral save %

2003-04:
Dan Cloutier: .914 save %, .910 shot-quality neutral save %
Marty Brodeur: .917 save %, .909 shot-quality neutral save %

(Stats courtesy hockeyanalytics).

Their performances over 2 NHL regular seasons were essentially the same.

The difference:

This goal was forgotten, as the Devils won the Cup.

This goal made Cloutier’s reputation as a choker, and he was run out of town in disgrace.

Oh, and another major difference?

Vezina Trophies: Brodeur 2, Cloutier 0.

6 comments:

Agent Orange said...

I know I am way behind on this one but couldn't resist commenting when I saw it.

Are you seriously arguing that because of his reputation Martin Brodeur was allowed to live on?

It had nothing to do with Cloutiers career 0.868 sv% on some pretty good teams after this goal?

It had nothing to do with his injury plagued 2005-2006 season?

It had nothing to do with the pick-up of Roberto Luongo? A goalie most teams in the NHL would have loved to pick-up.

But you are correct "he was run out of town in disgrace" after 2 full seasons as a starter and 2 flops in the playoffs.

Not to mention the Canucks were 8-8 with him having a 0.868 sv%. They were a good team who lost because of poor play between the pipes.

Anonymous said...

The 0.868 is cloutier's playoff sv % after that goal.

His regular seasson sv% has been much better as pointed out this article.

Agent Orange said...

I'm anonymous as well. Not sure why it posted that way.

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